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A vintage faith community in downtown Holland, Michigan

manna? is a vintage faith community that meets in downtown Holland, Michigan at the corner of 9th and Central.
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The WIFI Enabled Church (By Andrew @ Tallskinnykiwi.com)

Posted by Ed and Lois

Someone asked me last week about WiFi in the church. Its a great question, and i believe that it will change the way of teaching in traditional churches over the next few years. It may also affect house churches, since much of the new growth in wifi will be in the homes

The first church I attended with WiFi was the Gamagori Community Church in Japan, where they had me preach in 2002. The signal (coming from an apple airport like the one pictured) was all over the church but no one was on-line during the service. This will change soon. And this is how i predict it will happen

1. A church installs a WiFi transmitter, probably because they want wireless access to the internet for their staff who are in multiple offices.

3. During the Sunday service, people arrive early to get the best seats - those next to a power outlet. Some church members think they are taking notes from the ministers sermon. Others know better
4. The minister decides that instead of banning wifi usage during the teaching, he (or she) should actually take advantage of the technology. The minister uploads files related to the message, creates journeys of discovery and learning for the technologically advantaged to follow (to stop them digressing from the message

6. If the WiFi warriors are too much of a distraction, a special room is created in the back. In the meantime, the techies are sharing space in the crying room or the hall way, both of which will need more power sockets. But if it is not allowed in the sanctuary, why not have a dedicated space . . and with coffee, comfortable chairs and tables. Tables will allow people to track the teaching as a group - thus preventing people going off to read movie reviews or download games.

7. The minister decides that since so many people are tracking with him in his message, he finds a way to allow the congregation to make comments, suggest links to other Bible passages, or put up prayer requests, all in real time. If powerpoint is too static, a program that allows a message to be posted to the internet and commented on would work better (a modified blog????)

Full Post:http://tallskinnykiwi.typepad.com/tallskinnykiwi/2004/02/the_wifi_church.html

12/05 at 09:42 AM

Frankly by Michael Bishop (@ Next Wave)

Posted by Ed and Lois

“The point is, all the effort to fix the church misses the point. You can build the perfect church - and they (people in the world) still won’t come. People are not looking for a great church. They do not wake up every day wondering what church they can make successful.”

My question is, should we who are attempting to redefine church, Christian praxis, and mission in light of postmodernity think we should expect anything more? Seriously, what makes you think just because your church is not authoritative or hierarchical people are going to jump right in and begin taking their rightful places as priests and missionaries and begin acting as if they are the church? Do you really think Christians who have escaped borderline (and in some cases not-so-borderline) spiritually abusive situations are just going to turn right around give themselves over to your cause to build the next great house church movement to reach postmoderns?
Does this sound depressing? Well, of course it is. Church leaders are some of the most depressed people alive largely because they wake up everyday fighting to keep their organization afloat amongst the vast sea of consumer choices available to their congregations. It is literally sucking the life out of countless pastors, youth group leaders, children workers, church secretaries, elder boards, and on down the line. The ones who can hire the best and brightest staff to convince the best and brightest people to show up on Sunday and pay their dues are the ones that survive.
Full Post:http://www.the-next-wave.org/stories/storyReader$447

12/04 at 08:00 PM

Sunday December 5, 2004

Posted by Ed and Lois

Manna meets @ 10:42 AM at the Park Theatre

248 South River Avenue
Holland, Mi. 49423-3201


Still studying Acts. Also, I’m sure we will hear a few things about the Cuba trip.

12/04 at 05:00 PM

All Cereal Resturant Opens In Philly by Joseph Kaczmarek (USA Today)

Posted by Ed and Lois

How’s this for thinking outside the box: a cafe with jammies-clad servers pouring cereal day and night, topping it off with everything from fruit to malted milk balls, and serving it in “bowls” resembling Chinese takeout containers

Cereality Cereal Bar & Cafe, which opened its first sit-down cafe Wednesday on the University of Pennsylvania campus, is a sugarcoated — and tongue-in-cheek — homage to what your mother always told you was the most important meal of the day. But she probably never dished out bowls of Froot Loops and Cap’n Crunch topped with Pop Rocks.

Behind glass-door kitchen-style cabinets at Cereality are 30 varieties of brand-name cold cereal. Customers order from “cereologists,” whose most popular mix is two 8-ounce scoops with one of 36 toppings, plus regular, flavored or soy milk for $2.95. Also offered are cereal bars and made-to-order cereal smoothies and yogurt blends
Cereality also offers its own combos with names reminiscent of Ben and Jerry’s ice creams. John Merz, a 27-year-old Penn employee, was bowled over by Devil Made Me Do It — an ambrosial elixir of Cocoa Puffs, Lucky Charms, chocolate crunchies and malt balls, topped with milk.

You’re eating candy with milk on it!” chided his co-worker Caroline Couture, 42. After polishing off her Banana Brown Betty with hot oatmeal, bananas, molasses sugar and streusel topping, she said that she’d be having a salad for lunch — but that she’d visit Cereality again.

“We’re all still kids, really,” she said. “A lot of the foods you loved in childhood you still love as an adult.”

Full Post :http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/food/2004-12-01-cereal-restaurant_x.htm

12/04 at 05:00 AM

Baby Girl Born

Posted by Ed and Lois

Manna’s first birth.

Kira Arline Guerrin was born to her parents Seth and Abby Thursday afternoon, December 2 at Holland Hospital. Mom and Dad are doing fine. No word yet on the new grandparents.

12/03 at 10:25 AM
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